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National Atheist Party

Sam and Mike are joined by (a new) Casey to discuss listener questions and converse with Troy Boyle head of the National Atheist Party.


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Christie February 13, 2013 at 8:31 pm

I’m an atheist, and sorry but I don’t agree with having a National Atheist Party that is political. While atheism is not a religion, it addresses a religious claim, which is why I disagree with having it for the same reason I disagree with having a political Christian party. I know there are Christian parties, but they are unconstitutional. They shouldn’t be there in the first place, because we are not a theocracy, and we have the separation of church, and state. For some atheists to do the same it’s going down to their level, which I don’t think is a good thing because it’s making a bad name for atheists which is that they force their beliefs on others with laws. If someone wanted to make a party that most humanists, or freethinkers agree with, but call it a name that is inclusive of people of different religions, and worldviews I’d think this would be a great idea. I just think religion, and politics need to stay separate to allow for freedom of religion, and non-religion.

Mike Gillis February 13, 2013 at 9:10 pm

I would like to be clear that “Ask an Atheist” is not endorsing the National Atheist Party. We too share the same hesitation about a political party having an overt religious identity.

It isn’t, however, unconstitutional for a Christian political party to organize. Their program, on the other hand, likely would be unconstitutional.

We went into this interview with the dread that Troy Boyle was going to bomb. We thought he would prove to be someone who wasn’t competent, wasn’t serious, or hadn’t given the formation of a new political party with a lot of thought.

As someone with a lot of experience in third party organizing, these are things that definitely stick in my craw.

However, Troy Boyle proved to be none of these things. While I have no intention of joining or endorsing the NAP, I found him to be intelligent, thoughtful, and realistic. He impressed me both as an atheist activist, and as someone who naturally roots for underdog political parties.

That doesn’t change some of my reservations about putting a religious identity right in the name of a political organization, but a lot of my reservations were laid to rest about this being a group of people dicking around the internet who weren’t serious.

Christie February 27, 2013 at 8:58 am

Sorry for the delayed response Mike! I wanted to say thank you for clarifying! =)

Tim Gilbery February 13, 2013 at 9:24 pm

I have a daughter and a son who were/are in Scouting. I was an Assistant Scoutmaster in my son’s troop and I volunteer in different capacities with the Girl Scouts. While I agree with most of your statements concerning the BSA, you were way off suggesting that the Girl Scouts admit boys. The freedom, confidence, safety, and leadership opportunities that girls and young women get while a Girl Scout would be completely altered if boys were introduced. The GS are almost unique in our society today, providing single sex programs and training.

Thanks for the show, I look forward to it each week.



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